Part 3~ Shepherd-Princes & Sarah’s Daughters (A Godly Heritage) ~Interviews with Pastors & Wives in Honor of Pastor Appreciation Month

Simple definition of Heritage: noun  her·i·tage \ˈher-ə-tij, ˈhe-rə-\         the traditions, achievements, beliefs, etc., that are part of the history of a group or nation   Merriam-Webster’s Learner’s Dictionary

You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might. And these words which I command you today shall be in your heart. You shall teach them diligently to your children, and shall talk of them when you sit in your house, when you walk by the way, when you lie down, and when you rise up. You shall bind them as a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes. You shall write them on the doorposts of your house and on your gates. Deuteronomy 6:5-9 NASB

The lines have fallen to me in pleasant places; Indeed, my heritage is beautiful to me. Psalms 16:6 NASB

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Did you think when you became a Christian you would be pastoring one day?

No. I told God I would never be a missionary.  -Suzanne Winslow, Pastor’s Wife, Missionary to Zihuatanejo, Mexico

No.  -Pastor Greg Winslow, Missionary, Zihuatanejo Mexico

 

Never.  -Pastor Paul and Nancy Halas, Victory Chapel CFM, Billerica MA

 

No.  -Pastor Tim and Faith Scott, The Potter’s house CFM, Roselle Park, NJ

 

No way!!  -Maria Winslow, Preacher’s Kid, 3rd generation Pastor’s Wife, Victory Chapel CFM, Hagerstown MD

No, not really. I did not want to be a pastor. But God won out! There was no one time when God told me. My walk with God has been full of twists and turns. Always full of new challenges and points where God has led me and waited for me to respond. God called me into the ministry. There was no denying or putting it aside. I did not choose to pastor I told God long ago that He was in full control. I meant it then and I still do.  -Pastor Matthew Winslow, 2nd generation Pastor, Victory Chapel CFM, Hagerstown MD

What is your biggest challenge pastoring?

Waiting on God’s timing. For fruit, favor, revelation, etc. A lot of patience is needed.   -Pastor Matthew Winslow, 2nd generation Pastor, Victory Chapel CFM, Hagerstown MD

 

Fighting discouragement when you work so hard with someone and they don’t follow Jesus or betray you.  -Pastor Greg Winslow, Missionary, Zihuatanejo Mexico

A few questions for pastor’s wives: Are you ever lonely? If so, how do you counter it?

Not as much anymore. It used to be bad but God has helped me find comfort in the companionship of my kids and husband.   -Nacy Halas, Pastor’s Wife,Victory Chapel CFM, Billerica MA

 

Yes. I pray, make phone calls.  Maria Winslow, Preacher’s Kid, 3rd generation Pastor’s Wife, Victory Chapel CFM, Hagerstown MD

 

Yes, at times. The way out of that is worshiping and spending time with God.  -Suzanne Winslow, Pastor’s Wife, Missionary, Zihuatanejo Mexico

What is the hardest thing about being a Pastor’s wife?

Knowing what Jesus could do in transforming a person’s life if they would just make the right decisions and watching them make the wrong ones and miss out on what God has for them.   -Nacy Halas, Victory Chapel CFM, Billerica MA 

 

Being away from friends and family.  –Maria Winslow, Preacher’s Kid, 3rd generation Pastor’s Wife, Victory Chapel CFM, Hagerstown MD 

 

The demands on your time. It’s like a huge family. They all need care, like they are your children. -Suzanne Winslow, Pastor’s Wife, Missionary to Zihuatanejo Mexico 

What is your favorite thing about being a Pastor/ Pastor’s wife?

Knowing it’s God’s will.   Maria Winslow, Preacher’s Kid, 3rd generation Pastor’s Wife, Victory Chapel CFM, Hagerstown MD

 

I love all the relationships I’ve made with people all over the world.  -Nacy Halas, Pastor’s Wife,Victory Chapel CFM, Billerica MA

 

To see people grow, change, come to their potential and become men and women of God. When people stick and with a passion is what excites me. The miracles. When marriages are put back together.   -Pastor Greg and Suzanne Winslow, Missionaries to Zihuatanejo Mexico

What kind of challenges do you face as a Pastor’s wife raising Preacher’s Kids?

Always knowing you could and probably will make a mistake. Maria Winslow, Preacher’s Kid, 3rd generation Pastor’s Wife Victory Chapel CFM, Hagerstown MD (Maria and Matthew have 4 children.)

 

 Comparison.  -Faith Scott, Preacher’s Kid and 2nd generation Pastor’s Wife (Faith and Tim have 3 children) 

 

Trying to find the balance between making sure they are examples to everyone else who is watching as a guideline on how to raise their kids and being gracious and understanding that they are kids like everyone else and need our patience and grace. -Nacy Halas, Victory Chapel CFM, Billerica MA (Nancy and Paul have 4 children)

 

Trying to juggle homeschooling. -Suzanne Winslow, Pastor’s Wife, Missionary, Zihuatanejo Mexico (Suzanne and Greg have 6 children.)

What most breaks your heart?

When converts leave the Faith.  -Pastor Tim and Faith Scott, The Potter’s house CFM, Roselle Park, NJ

 

Brothers and sisters who have left the will of God.  -Pastor Matthew Winslow, 2nd generation Pastor, Victory Chapel CFM, Hagerstown MD

What keeps you going?

Others that went before us and what Christ did for me.   -Pastor Tim and Faith Scott, The Potter’s house CFM, Roselle Park, NJ

 

God keeps me going. Thoughts of the effects quitting might have on my family and others. Thoughts of not wanting to be out of the will of God. -Pastor Paul Halas, 1st generation Pastor, Victory Chapel CFM, Billerica MA

 

The call of God on my life. The support of my family and the devotion of my wife.  -Pastor Matthew Winslow, 2nd generation Pastor, Victory Chapel CFM, Hagerstown MD   

What most encourages you? 

What most encourages you?  The Word of God and my wife.  Pastor Paul Halas, Victory Chapel CFM, Billerica MA

 

When converts get revelation.  -Pastor Tim, The Potter’s house CFM, Roselle Park, NJ

 

Seeing people make it for God.  -Pastor Matthew Winslow, 2nd generation Pastor, Victory Chapel CFM,  Hagerstown MD

 

To see our children and people we pastor raised up and walk with God. -Pastor Greg and Suzanne Winslow, Missionaries to Zihuatanejo Mexico

How do you keep your heart and zeal for people and God, in spite of people’s failings and some turning against you?

A personal relationship with my Jesus. Praying daily and reading the Word.  -Pastor Tim and Faith Scott, The Potter’s house CFM, Roselle Park, NJ

 

P: That’s something God has to do in you. N: I remind myself I’m doing it for Jesus, not for people. As long as He is pleased with my life, that’s what counts.  -Pastor Paul and Nacy Halas, Victory Chapel CFM, Billerica MA

 

By making a decision to always forgive, knowing we fight against principalities and powers. -Pastor Greg and Suzanne Winslow, Missionaries to Zihuatanejo Mexico

 

As many times as I’ve had to ask for forgiveness, I ask God to remind me of that when people hurt me. It keeps it in perspective for me. (Mark 11:25-26) I know I’m gonna need more forgiveness before I am done!  -Pastor Matthew Winslow, 2nd generation Pastor, Victory Chapel CFM, Hagerstown MD

I have heard people say “The pastor has it so easy, he doesn’t have to go to work. What does he do all day? All he has to do is write a few sermons a week. So, the following few questions are aimed at setting the record straight. What does a day in your life as a pastor look like?

I’m a working pastor.  -Pastor Paul Halas, Victory Chapel CFM, Billerica MA

 

As a working pastor I am extremely busy. Picture your normal day with kids, spouse, and job issues. Then add preparing sermons, follow up, outreach, and church responsibilities on top of that. Basically there are no days off!!   -Pastor Matthew Winslow, 2nd generation Pastor, Victory Chapel CFM,  Hagerstown MD

What are some duties you perform for the church on a regular basis that your congregation may not be aware of?

N: Hours of book-work, cleaning, etc. P: All the hours of counseling in off hours, all the study time.  -Pastor Paul and Nacy Halas, Victory Chapel CFM, Billerica MA

 

All of them! Ha ha, we’re just a baby church so everything from mow the lawn to cleaning the church.  -Pastor Matthew Winslow, 2nd generation Pastor, Victory Chapel CFM,   Hagerstown MD

What do you see as the biggest threat to the Church today?

Luke warmness.  -Pastor Tim Scott, The Potter’s house CFM, Roselle Park, NJ

 

Spiritual indifference. Apathy.   -Pastor Paul Halas, Victory Chapel CFM, Billerica MA

 

Apathy… To God’s word, the lost and his church.  -Pastor Matthew Winslow, 2nd generation Pastor, Victory Chapel CFM,  Hagerstown MD

 

Lukewarmness. Becoming passive, complacent, being satisfied leading to lazyness and powerlessness is a dangerous place. -Pastor Greg Winslow, Missionary to Zihuatanejo Mexico

What has being a pastor cost you?

“Cost?” -Pastor Greg and Suzanne Winslow, Missionaries to Zihuatanejo Mexico  (They both hesitated at this question at first. I waited for their answers.)

Leaving family in the US. Less stuff, but I don’t consider it a loss, but a privilege.-Suzanne Winslow, Pastor’s wife, Missionary to Zihuatanejo, Mexico

I never thought about it. I got the call and answered. Grief and grey hairs. Family time. Putting aside our own will to meet others’. I had to learn there is more to being a pastor than preaching. Ministry is hard and heartbreaking, but it’s rewarding. Knowing and serving God is a privilege, not a burden. If one person gets saved it’s worth it, because you can’t put a price on a soul.  -Pastor Greg Winslow, Missionary to Zihuatanejo Mexico  

 

It costs you everything. Had we not pastored we’d own a home, we’d have a lot more money… But then again, being in God’s will, we don’t look at it like it costs us anything. I think it costs a lot more to not do the will of God.  -Pastor Paul Halas, Victory Chapel CFM, Billerica MA

 

I thought this was kind of a funny question! I cannot think of anything that pastoring has cost me. I guess there might be a deeper answer but honestly my brain does not work like that. God runs the show! It’s His will, His bill!  -Pastor Matthew Winslow, 2nd generation Pastor,  Victory Chapel CFM, Hagerstown MD

Who inspires you?

Lots of people inspire me but my top five are: #1 my dad, #2 my pastor, #3 my wife, #4 my two brothers, and #5 my best friend.  -Pastor Matthew Winslow, 2nd generation Pastor, Victory Chapel CFM Hagerstown MD

 

Anybody who is persevering in the faith.   -Pastor Greg Winslow, Missionary, Zihuatanejo Mexico

Is there anything you would like to tell us about your parents?    

My parents would pray and read their bible together every day. They were prayer warriors. They prayed for those on their list individually. I believe that’s why I am where I am today. They would say to us, “Read your Bible and pray, or you won’t make it as a Christian.”

Thanks for running the race and making it!  You have set the example and now you are both with Christ!  And because of that I will see you both again someday!  -Faith Scott, Preacher’s Kid and 2nd generation Pastor’s Wife

 

My parents as well as Matthew’s parents have left us with a rich inheritance we are so grateful for. Thanks to them and their sacrifice we have the marriage and family that we are blessed with. They shaped us by raising us up with the Gospel and their example into who we are and and gave us the tools to survive this life and we are blessed!!  -Maria Winslow, Preacher’s Kid, 3rd generation Pastor’s Wife, Victory Chapel CFM, Hagerstown MD, 

Do you have any words of encouragement for pastors and wives raising kids in the ministry, especially to those who have prodigals?

Keep praying! My grandmother prayed 12 children back into the kingdom!  –Maria Winslow, Preacher’s Kid, 3rd generation Pastor’s Wife, Victory Chapel CFM, Hagerstown MD

*Share some words of appreciation for your pastor and he will be listed on the Wall of Honor and entered to win a retreat at the Energize Lodge.

**Pray for your pastor! Text the word PASTOR to 74574 for daily reminders and prompts to pray for your pastor.

© 2016 Rachael M Colby | Tattoo It On Your Heart

Part 2~ Shepherd-Princes & Sarah’s Daughters ~A Series of Interviews with Pastors and Their Wives in Honor of Pastor Appreciation Month 2016

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Pastor Schaffer and his wife Suzanne answered my questions separately, as have several of the couples I interviewed. I thought it would be interesting to put them together for this post.

Pastor and Suzanne,          Thank you for your honesty, your heart to serve Christ and His Church and for your sense of humor.

For a bellyful of laughs and sometimes a good Gospel kick in the pants, visit Suzanne’s blog at: http://notenoughchocolate.blogspot.com/

(The scripture above is my contribution to this post.)

Pastor Wayne & Suzanne Shaffer~  New Life, Altoona PA   

Both raised in Christian homes.

Born Again:  Pastor Shaffer 43 years / Suzanne Shaffer:40 years      

Married: 25 years   Children: Son 22 & daughter  19

Full time ministry: 25 years. Lead pastor: 16 years. Pastored: 3 churches.    

Missions trips to 5 countries.    

Did you think when you became a Christian you would be pastoring one day?

No. -P

In high school I had a desire to be a pastor’s wife. I have no idea why! If I had known how hard it is I never would have wanted it. PW

Why did you become a Pastor?

The call of God. I was called when I was 16 traveling with a Christian singing group. -P

I have heard people say “The pastor has it so easy, he doesn’t have to go to work. What does he do all day? All he has to do is write a few sermons a week. So, the following few questions are aimed at setting the record straight. What does a day in your life as a pastor look like?

I wish I knew. It is never the same! 

What are some duties you perform for the church on a regular basis that your congregation may not be aware of?

Building/grounds maintenance, bulletin, counseling, vehicle repair/maintenance, visitation, set audio, lighting and video, checking on financials, etc… -P

On average how much time does it take you to put together a sermon, including research, study, etc.? How much time in personal Bible study,praying?

8-10 hours for a sermon. 30 minutes -1 hour

What has being a Pastor cost you?

It has cost me nothing yet everything. There is no price too great when serving the Lord.

What has been the most unexpected hardship to Pastoring?

Mean “Christians” (in quotes because I’m not sure they’re all saved!) -PW

Living in the fishbowl. I knew it was there (I’m a PK), but wow! It can be so draining. -P  (Pastor Shaffer is a 2nd generation pastor and their son recently became a Youth Pastor.) 🙂

What most breaks your heart?

People who hear the Word week after week and never allow the Spirit of God to transform them. -P

People going to the altar week after week for years but not willing to change. -PW

Do you ever want to quit?

I quit every Sunday and hire myself back every Monday. P

Most of the time. -PW

What keeps you going?

It truly is just being obedient to the call of the Lord. If God ever tells me to stop, I will. -P

The thought of retirement in the next 20-25 years ha ha. Knowing that a life outside of God’s will is a miserable life. -PW

Pastors and wives: Do you have someone you can talk to for counsel, direction, encouragement, prayer, someone you can be really open with? What about friends?

 Yes I do. I have several individuals I can confide in and seek counsel from.

Yes. Long time friends. No one local. -PW

What most encourages you?

I have an incredible church board. We spend most of our meetings rejoicing in what God is doing and praying for direction and more of the  Holy Spirit.-P

Who inspires you?

Pastors that have been faithful through so much. I have had incredible pastor role models and mentors.

 What has been the most unexpected benefit to pastoring?

Having one of my students, then youth pastor become the District Youth Director of Illinois.

What kind of challenges do you face as a Pastor’s wife raising Preacher’s Kids?

Expectations. People telling me I need to be more involved.

What is the hardest thing about being a Pastor’s wife? 

Being in the spotlight, expected to be perfect, people twisting my words.

What is your favorite thing about being Pastor’s wife?            

Knowing that it’s what God wants. -PW

How do you keep your heart and zeal for people and God, in spite of people’s failings and some turning against you?

Years ago I came to the conclusion that we are all sinful by nature and that without the power and presence of the Holy Spirit in a person’s life on a daily basis they will always give in to that sinful nature. So I don’t take it personally anymore. -P

Learning to let things go as soon as they happen. Not allowing bitterness to creep in. -PW

What is the hardest part of being a Pastor?

Balancing home, work and ministry.

What are some things your church could do to lighten your load or refresh you and your family, so you can better serve God and them?

Convey to the congregation that we have office/working hours just like they do and to try and be considerate of our personal time. Don’t call unless it’s an emergency and don’t expect to get a call or text back on my day off. -P

If you could tell your church anything about yourself, your family, or anything else what would it be? What’s on your heart?

We are people just like you. Same struggles and passions. Same tragedies and triumphs. Don’t put us on a pedestal, but imitate us as we imitate Christ.  -P

Stop playing church and get serious, want to see the miraculous in your life? Get right with God every day of the week.-PW

What do you see as the biggest threat to the church today?

Apathy to the Gospel and a false gospel of law and legalism as opposed to grace being preached and taught in many churches. -P

Christians who are legalistic and just plain mean. -PW

 What do you believe is the key to revival?

When the people of God on an individual basis go after God with everything in them, this will bring revival. -P

Hearts that seek God and His kingdom with everything in them. -PW

What are your favorite memories of pastoring?

The joys of seeing a family share in that moment of a family member coming to Christ or Water Baptism. -P

The weddings, the baptisms, the people who have had life-changing encounters with the Lord. -PW

What is the funniest or craziest situation you’ve experienced during your ministry that you are free to share?

The guy who would shout out, “And women too” whenever anyone would close in prayer with “Amen.” (This is actually a very mild story. I have hundreds I could share, but that’s for another book.) -P

I have way too many to list! (Some will be in my own book) One is the lady who told me, “You’re so different from (former pastor’s wife), I think I need you in smaller doses.” Who says that? How was I supposed to take that? -PW           (…WOW!)

Is there anything else you would like to share that hasn’t been covered?

Trust God, stay faithful and persevere in all things! -Pastor Schaffer

Share some words of appreciation for your pastor and he will be listed on the Wall of Honor and entered to win a retreat at the Energize Lodge.

Pray for your pastor! Text the word PASTOR to 74574 for daily reminders and prompts to pray for your pastor.

© 2016 Rachael M Colby | Tattoo It On Your Heart

 

 

Shepherd-Princes & Sarah’s Daughters ~ A Series of Interviews with Pastors and Their Wives in Honor of Pastor Appreciation Month 2016, (Part 1)

In honor of Pastor Appreciation Month, October’s posts will feature interviews with Born Again Christian pastors and their wives from around the world. Some I know personally, others I don’t. There are also a few interviews with preacher’s kids, (PKs).The participants represent a variety of churches- Baptist, Pentecostal, Non-denominational, Presbyterian… I will be posting several times throughout the month.

My intention is to bless ministers. I want to introduce people to the life and heart of pastors and their wives so they see them as the heroes of the faith they are, and also as people who need the love and support of their congregations. 

I believe education can bring understanding, which brings respect and appreciation for one another, maybe even make us pray a little more for each other. The churches featured range from small struggling pioneer works to established larger ones on three different continents.There is no compare factor here as far as I’m concerned as we’re all called to do what God calls us to, and there is nothing better than fulfilling what God has for each of us. I believe there is no insignificant task when we are in God’s will, but all our loads feel lighter with a little appreciation.

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And I will give you shepherds according to My heart, who will feed you with knowledge and understanding. Jeremiah 3:15 NKJV

They opened their mouths and jewels came tumbling out. I tried to catch them all, lest any fall to the ground. Oh God; woe is me. This is holy ground.

I set out to bless pastors and wives with this project, but in the process, I have been blessed, challenged, humbled. They have shown me my poverty. I am made rich by the words of their testimony. They have brought me low, to the foot of the cross, the highest place on this side of eternity. I have laughed, I have cried, I have repented. Oh wretched man that I am…

“God, change me. I want a heart like theirs, wholly after You, one willingly given for the cause of winning souls. Jesus, I want to know you, to honor You and to make You known.”

I saw their humanity and the Divine Who dwells in them. They are leaking Jesus. They are humble and mighty. They are convicting. Their hearts are beautiful. I am honored to shine the light on them. Allow me to introduce you to some of God’s shepherd-princes and Sarah’s daughters.

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What has being a pastor/ pastor’s wife cost you?

It has cost me nothing yet everything. There is no price too great when serving the Lord.   -Pastor Wayne Shaffer,  New Life AG, Altoona PA

 

My will for the will of God.  -Pastor Patrick Jordan, The Door CFM,  Jamaica West Indies

 

We left our daughters at 16 and 18 to become a missionaries, which was the hardest part.  Also we closed 2 businesses, gave both our vehicles to people who needed them, and all our furniture and belongings.                     -Pastor Raul and Stephanie Delcid, Potter’s House CFM, Ecuador

Jesus said, “Truly I say to you, there is no one who has left house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or farms, for My sake and for the gospel’s sake, but that he will receive a hundred times as much now in the present age, houses and brothers and sisters and mothers and children and farms, along with persecutions; and in the age to come, eternal life. Mark 10:29 – 30 NASB     

What is the hardest part of being a pastor/ pastor’s wife?

I think the hardest thing about being a pastor for me is the fact that I do not know how much of a difference I am actually making.                             -Rev. Michael Duncan, speaker, author, Pastor of Mountain View Baptist Church, Darrington, WA

 

The roller coaster ride of your heart, feeling the hurt of others.Seeing someone begin the race and not finish. When people leave, feeling the empty place that no one else is going to fill and realizing that could happen to me too.  –Alejandra Williams, Pastor’s Wife, Victory Chapel, Cape Cod, CFM

 

Focusing on a pastor’s primary job, which is an intimate relationship with the Lord and one’s family. The temptation is to make solving church-member problems my priority.  -Dr.George W. (Bill) Nichols, Ph.D., Pastor, missions worker, author.

 

What is your biggest challenge pastoring?

Attempting to reach the youth who have been brought up in a culture that is greatly disconnected from a Biblical foundation.                                       -Pastor, Transformation Ministries, Ohio.

 

We have to be intentional about setting time for family and for us as a couple. -Pastor Bruce Hanlon, Forrestdale Church, Sandwich, MA

 

What is your favorite thing about being a pastor/pastor’s wife?

Encouraging others to rise up, imparting the vision to them. When they catch the vision! Helping people, ministering to them. -Pastor Roger Williams, Victory Chapel CFM, Cape Cod, MA

 

Seeing God change people’s lives and they are blessed and go on to do the will of God. -Lori Ganiear, Pastor’s Wife, Victory Chapel CFM, Cape Cod MA

 

What are your favorite memories of pastoring?

… seeing the people “get it.” My greatest joy is seeing the people meet Jesus in the preaching of His Word. They come to church hungry, and when they get filled by the preaching of the Word, my heart is overjoyed.   -Pastor James La Belle, author, Pastor of Presbyterian Church of Cape Cod

 

How do you keep your heart and zeal for people and God, in spite of people’s failings and some turning against you?

By always thinking about the BIG picture, that it’s not about us, it’s about the people. Like my husband always says, “We are here to serve.” So when you have that mentality you realize you will be used, hurt by people and that is OK. After all we don’t love and serve people because they are nice back to us, but because we are capable of loving them with Jesus’s help, even when it’s hard. -Vika Aaltonen, Missionary Wife, The Door, CFM, Helsinki, Finland

 

What is the funniest or craziest situation you’ve experienced during your ministry that you are free to share?

When potty training my toddler, they ran down the church aisle naked during praise and worship. Yikes! – Donna, Pastors Wife

 

What do you see as the biggest threat to the church today?

I think we are on a teetering point. The biggest problem I think is internal; people who lose faith to take God at His Word. People who like to wear the Christian badge, but that’s it. It’s part of their Facebook profile, but not part of their personal profile. They are not converted. -Pastor Chip Ganiear, Victory Chapel CFM, Cape Cod, MA

 

What do you believe is the key to revival?

When the Church recognizes its distance from God, repents and takes steps toward God. Lordship means supreme authority. Lordship and forgiveness are two keys to revival. Many know Jesus as savior and healer, but not as Lord. Without Christ’s lordship, there is no revival.                       Pastor Greg Winslow, Missionary to Zihuatanejo, Mexico

Share some words of appreciation for your pastor and he will be listed on the Wall of Honor and entered to win a retreat at the Energize Lodge.

Pray for your pastor! Text the word PASTOR to 74574 for daily reminders and prompts to pray for your pastor.

© 2016 Rachael M Colby